Comment on the events that happened in Chapter 5. Also, feel free to ask questions about anything you don't understand, or to create discussion questions for your classmates.
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Ashley S. =]
In chapter 5, Jonas has a dream about wanting to bathe a girl named Fiona. When Jonas tells this dream to his parents in the morning, his mother explains that Jonas has had his first "Stirring". I think that a "Stirring" is somethig that has to do with puberty. I think this because his parents said that everyone goes through it, and it usually starts around the age of 12. Jonas now has to take a pill for some reason. Mabye this pill regulates your hormones or something, so that you can be paired up to a spouse when you get older and it won't matter if you love them or not. I think this is a little strange because it's another way that the community is controlling the people who live there, and even though it may be benificial, it can't be good to be tampering with a natural life occurince
Chapter five is very short yet it gives you a huge piece of what the society is really like and what happens to make sure there aren't differences. Jonas has a dream and begins his stirrings and is almost immedietly given a pill to take the feelings away. Does this mean that the entire community is sedidated with these pills that take away feelings? Also is there any real love between spouses?
In chapter 5, Jonas experienced something that in the community is called "Stirrings" in his dream. In the dream, Jonas was in the House of Old with a girl named Fiona. Unlike before, there was only one tub in the bathing room where he was. He had his tunic off and he was bare-chested. He was serious and almost angry in the dream because he wanted Fiona to get in the tub so he could bathe her but she kept laughing. When Jonas awoke he was very confused however it seemed to him that he liked the Stirrings. When he told his parents in the morning, his mother told him what they were called and how everyone gets them and how that he would have to take a pill everyday to prevent him from getting them. When he took the pill on the way home from school he realized almost unhappily that his Stirring had disappeared. Jonas is apparently going through a stage where he likes girls, however it seem that in the community they try to stop that for both males and females. This is terrible to me because it means that you could never love someone in that sort of way. I don't understand how such a thing could not exist.
Jonas must really like Fiona but the parents don't get to choose their spouse. They community must have created theese pills to supress the feeling of wanting a certain person (like a crush). I don't think that the people in Jonas's town are truely happy because they do not enjoy the freedom of choice. They can not express their true feelings of love or hate and they are forced to fallow many everyday rituals. I also think that the people in Jonas's community don't know how to live any other way. They think that there is no other good way to live and that they have accomplished true happiness. Emma M
I think that the whole dreaming scene was confusing because he dreams about things like rituals, and things like that. Why does he say thank you to people when he awakes. He said, "thank you Lily," when he awoke. That chapter was a good chapter but it was kind of normal, like the others. Why does his mom say things like that to. She says,"thank you for my dream Jonas," when she wakes up to.
~Sydney J. I like the idea that in the community they have a morning ritual when they share their dreams because I think it would be fun to share the dreams I had and hear about others. Also, I think it would make people who had bad dreams feel better. The thing i don't get is the whole concept of the stirrings. What are they? Are they just a certain feeling you get sometime around the age of eleven or twelve? And why do you have to take pills, and what do the pills do for you? I think maybe it anxiety, and they pills get rid of it. But if that is the case, people stop taking them when they reach the house of old, so do the elders get the stirrings again? But I thaught they wanted the elders to be comfortable. I am very confused about this whole concept.
Caitlen B. The sirrings jonas goes away after taking the pills. why would they want tose to go away if they are just part of human natre? Why do they have to take the pills?
Caitlen B. The sirrings jonas goes away after taking the pills. why would they want tose to go away if they are just part of human natre? Why do they have to take the pills?
In chapter 5 Jonas had his very first “stirring.” A stirring is a dream that both boys and girls will get as they get older. In his vivid dream he was trying to bathe Fiona. He said “she was laughing but I wasn’t. I was almost a little angry with her, in the dream, because she wasn’t taking me seriously.” Lily asked “seriously about what?” Jonas thought he was trying to convince her that she should get into the tub of water. Father asked him to describe the feeling he felt. Jonas said “the wanting.” Now Jonas must take a pill every morning to keep the stirrings from coming back. I think that stirring may have to do with puberty, because he is twelve and that is when your body starts to change a little.
~Bryce G~ Chapter 5 of "The Giver" talks about "Stirrings" the 12 year old boys get. This is when their puberty starts and their hormones kick in. When a boy gets his "stirring", he starts to get attracted to females in a way that is new for him and forbiden in the community. Once Jonas has a dream that involves a girl named Fiona and him wanting to bath her with a very strong wanting feeling, his parents talk to him about it when he shares his dream in the morning dream sharing ritual. They tell him that every boy around 12 starts to feel strang new feelings toward the oposite gender. His parents tell him about the pill he will now have to take every morning in order to get rid of this "wanting". I wonder if there really is any true love in the town.
Chapter 5 talks about Jonas maturing. Every morning the family does a ritual were they talk about their dreams. Jonas decides that for once he is going to share his dream. His dream would be classified as a "Stirring". After Lily and her father left, Jonas's mother sits down and talks to him. She explains to him about a pill that all people take when they have Stirrings. She also explains that he will not have to go to treatment and that treatment is just getting the pills. I just think that it is very weird how they dealwith stirrings. Every teenager is going to have these "Stirrings" sometime or another and there is nothing you can really do about it. I don't understand why some people have to go to treatment? If the teenagers just do what Jonas did by telling their parents, then the parents could just give them pills and deal with the doses because they have been taking them so long too.
Chapter 5 talks about Jonas maturing. Every morning the family does a ritual were they talk about their dreams. Jonas decides that for once he is going to share his dream. His dream would be classified as a "Stirring". After Lily and her father left, Jonas's mother sits down and talks to him. She explains to him about a pill that all people take when they have Stirrings. She also explains that he will not have to go to treatment and that treatment is just getting the pills. I just think that it is very weird how they dealwith stirrings. Every teenager is going to have these "Stirrings" sometime or another and there is nothing you can really do about it. I don't understand why some people have to go to treatment? If the teenagers just do what Jonas did by telling their parents, then the parents could just give them pills and deal with the doses because they have been taking them so long too.
For chapter 5, I have a few comments and questions about the "stirrings." Jonas had his very first stirring in this chapter. What I am pretty sure stirrings means is hormones. So, I came to the very accurate(hopefully) conclusion that he takes the pills right? Since people arent really allowed to have kids, these pills might help to get rid of the "want" to have kids or do things. (you know what I mean) So these pills will most likely help with the feelings of making sure that people won't try and have their own kids. I had a quick question about the pills though. Is there any age limit for these pills? like if you had stirrings when you were 10, do you HAVE TO take the pills? and what if you dont want to take them, will people force you to?
In chapter Jonas has a dream about wanting to be with a girl Fiona. His parents call them "stirrings" I think the reason that JOnas will have to take pills is so he wont fall in love too quicky. If that is true it will keep younger people from getting married earlier than what the city had in mind. The pills probably keep their hormones regulated too.
In this chapter, Jonas dreams about bathing Fiona, another eleven. He shares this with his family in the morning at the dream dicussion. His parents called this "stirrings". They give him a pill to stop them. I think the "stirrings" are just Jonas being affected by puberty. The pills are to suppress his feelings of love, so that the council can pick his wife.
Tori B. In chapter five, Jonas has a stirring. It doesnt really explain what a stirring is but I think it is like a crush or a feeling of wanting. After he shares this, he has to start taking pills every morning. the pills seem to make the feelings dissapear. This could be a good thing, but it could also be bad. If you never really love someone, how can you live with them? Maybe the society has a reason for doing this and it hasnt been given yet.
Jess M I don't think that the pills the people need to take would work. I haven't known anyone who takes a pill that stops certain types of dreams from coming back. Taking pills for something that might not work could be pretty dangerous. The people in the society probally think that the pills work so the dreams actually go away. It's the power of suggestion. For a young boy dreaming about washing one of is friends that is a girl is not really normal. And your telling me that everybody that takes pills dreams about something like that? That is very very strange.
i think jonas's dream was sick, he is having the dreams about wanting to wash a girl at age 12 is just sick. are the stirrings puberty? if it is jonas is hitting puberty early, or do all the kids hit puberty at an early age? why does jonas not feel insecure telling these people who arent even his parents that he is having dreams about bathing a girl?
Personally I think that this chapter was disturbingly funny. Jonas has a gross dream and he shared it with his family. I wish Lois Lowry would've described their facial expressions. I think that Jonas has a huge crush on Fiona; either that or it was just hormones. ~Megan M.
Chapter 5 was....weird. He dreamed that he tried bathed Fiona. When he told his parents in the morning, his Mother gave him some sort of pill. She said it's to stop the "stirrings." His mother said that they stop taking the pills when they get older. I wonder why they stop taking the pills at the house of old. Overall, very weird chapter....
I agree with Ashley S.I think that "Stirrings" are just a phase that has to do with puberty. Although, i don't know what the pills are for, but i have an idea...more next time I blog.
In chapter five, Jonas officially reached puberty when he had his first Stirring. A Stirring is a dream that both boys and girls have. In a Stirring, the person will feel want or sexual affection for another person. This is like a fantasy dream, and the Community must make sure that they can control the emotions and hormones of the members. I think that this is a bit cruel, to prohibit people from feeling
22 comments:
Ashley S. =]
In chapter 5, Jonas has a dream about wanting to bathe a girl named Fiona. When Jonas tells this dream to his parents in the morning, his mother explains that Jonas has had his first "Stirring". I think that a "Stirring" is somethig that has to do with puberty. I think this because his parents said that everyone goes through it, and it usually starts around the age of 12. Jonas now has to take a pill for some reason. Mabye this pill regulates your hormones or something, so that you can be paired up to a spouse when you get older and it won't matter if you love them or not. I think this is a little strange because it's another way that the community is controlling the people who live there, and even though it may be benificial, it can't be good to be tampering with a natural life occurince
Cody S.
Chapter five is very short yet it gives you a huge piece of what the society is really like and what happens to make sure there aren't differences. Jonas has a dream and begins his stirrings and is almost immedietly given a pill to take the feelings away. Does this mean that the entire community is sedidated with these pills that take away feelings? Also is there any real love between spouses?
In chapter 5, Jonas experienced something that in the community is called "Stirrings" in his dream. In the dream, Jonas was in the House of Old with a girl named Fiona. Unlike before, there was only one tub in the bathing room where he was. He had his tunic off and he was bare-chested. He was serious and almost angry in the dream because he wanted Fiona to get in the tub so he could bathe her but she kept laughing. When Jonas awoke he was very confused however it seemed to him that he liked the Stirrings. When he told his parents in the morning, his mother told him what they were called and how everyone gets them and how that he would have to take a pill everyday to prevent him from getting them. When he took the pill on the way home from school he realized almost unhappily that his Stirring had disappeared. Jonas is apparently going through a stage where he likes girls, however it seem that in the community they try to stop that for both males and females. This is terrible to me because it means that you could never love someone in that sort of way. I don't understand how such a thing could not exist.
- Ellie G.
Jonas must really like Fiona but the parents don't get to choose their spouse. They community must have created theese pills to supress the feeling of wanting a certain person (like a crush). I don't think that the people in Jonas's town are truely happy because they do not enjoy the freedom of choice. They can not express their true feelings of love or hate and they are forced to fallow many everyday rituals.
I also think that the people in Jonas's community don't know how to live any other way. They think that there is no other good way to live and that they have accomplished true happiness.
Emma M
Joe G
I think that the whole dreaming scene was confusing because he dreams about things like rituals, and things like that. Why does he say thank you to people when he awakes.
He said, "thank you Lily," when he awoke. That chapter was a good chapter but it was kind of normal, like the others. Why does his mom say things like that to.
She says,"thank you for my dream Jonas," when she wakes up to.
~Sydney J.
I like the idea that in the community they have a morning ritual when they share their dreams because I think it would be fun to share the dreams I had and hear about others. Also, I think it would make people who had bad dreams feel better. The thing i don't get is the whole concept of the stirrings. What are they? Are they just a certain feeling you get sometime around the age of eleven or twelve? And why do you have to take pills, and what do the pills do for you? I think maybe it anxiety, and they pills get rid of it. But if that is the case, people stop taking them when they reach the house of old, so do the elders get the stirrings again? But I thaught they wanted the elders to be comfortable. I am very confused about this whole concept.
Caitlen B.
The sirrings jonas goes away after taking the pills. why would they want tose to go away if they are just part of human natre? Why do they have to take the pills?
Caitlen B.
The sirrings jonas goes away after taking the pills. why would they want tose to go away if they are just part of human natre? Why do they have to take the pills?
Aly K.
The Giver
In chapter 5 Jonas had his very first “stirring.” A stirring is a dream that both boys and girls will get as they get older. In his vivid dream he was trying to bathe Fiona. He said “she was laughing but I wasn’t. I was almost a little angry with her, in the dream, because she wasn’t taking me seriously.” Lily asked “seriously about what?” Jonas thought he was trying to convince her that she should get into the tub of water. Father asked him to describe the feeling he felt. Jonas said “the wanting.” Now Jonas must take a pill every morning to keep the stirrings from coming back. I think that stirring may have to do with puberty, because he is twelve and that is when your body starts to change a little.
~Bryce G~
Chapter 5 of "The Giver" talks about "Stirrings" the 12 year old boys get. This is when their puberty starts and their hormones kick in. When a boy gets his "stirring", he starts to get attracted to females in a way that is new for him and forbiden in the community. Once Jonas has a dream that involves a girl named Fiona and him wanting to bath her with a very strong wanting feeling, his parents talk to him about it when he shares his dream in the morning dream sharing ritual. They tell him that every boy around 12 starts to feel strang new feelings toward the oposite gender. His parents tell him about the pill he will now have to take every morning in order to get rid of this "wanting". I wonder if there really is any true love in the town.
Hannah C.
Chapter 5 talks about Jonas maturing. Every morning the family does a ritual were they talk about their dreams. Jonas decides that for once he is going to share his dream. His dream would be classified as a "Stirring". After Lily and her father left, Jonas's mother sits down and talks to him. She explains to him about a pill that all people take when they have Stirrings. She also explains that he will not have to go to treatment and that treatment is just getting the pills.
I just think that it is very weird how they dealwith stirrings. Every teenager is going to have these "Stirrings" sometime or another and there is nothing you can really do about it. I don't understand why some people have to go to treatment? If the teenagers just do what Jonas did by telling their parents, then the parents could just give them pills and deal with the doses because they have been taking them so long too.
Hannah C.
Chapter 5 talks about Jonas maturing. Every morning the family does a ritual were they talk about their dreams. Jonas decides that for once he is going to share his dream. His dream would be classified as a "Stirring". After Lily and her father left, Jonas's mother sits down and talks to him. She explains to him about a pill that all people take when they have Stirrings. She also explains that he will not have to go to treatment and that treatment is just getting the pills.
I just think that it is very weird how they dealwith stirrings. Every teenager is going to have these "Stirrings" sometime or another and there is nothing you can really do about it. I don't understand why some people have to go to treatment? If the teenagers just do what Jonas did by telling their parents, then the parents could just give them pills and deal with the doses because they have been taking them so long too.
Alex B.
For chapter 5, I have a few comments and questions about the "stirrings." Jonas had his very first stirring in this chapter. What I am pretty sure stirrings means is hormones. So, I came to the very accurate(hopefully) conclusion that he takes the pills right? Since people arent really allowed to have kids, these pills might help to get rid of the "want" to have kids or do things. (you know what I mean) So these pills will most likely help with the feelings of making sure that people won't try and have their own kids. I had a quick question about the pills though. Is there any age limit for these pills? like if you had stirrings when you were 10, do you HAVE TO take the pills? and what if you dont want to take them, will people force you to?
Virginia D.
In chapter Jonas has a dream about wanting to be with a girl Fiona. His parents call them "stirrings" I think the reason that JOnas will have to take pills is so he wont fall in love too quicky. If that is true it will keep younger people from getting married earlier than what the city had in mind. The pills probably keep their hormones regulated too.
Elena Q :) :)
In this chapter, Jonas dreams about bathing Fiona, another eleven. He shares this with his family in the morning at the dream dicussion. His parents called this "stirrings". They give him a pill to stop them. I think the "stirrings" are just Jonas being affected by puberty. The pills are to suppress his feelings of love, so that the council can pick his wife.
Tori B.
In chapter five, Jonas has a stirring. It doesnt really explain what a stirring is but I think it is like a crush or a feeling of wanting. After he shares this, he has to start taking pills every morning. the pills seem to make the feelings dissapear. This could be a good thing, but it could also be bad. If you never really love someone, how can you live with them? Maybe the society has a reason for doing this and it hasnt been given yet.
Jess M
I don't think that the pills the people need to take would work. I haven't known anyone who takes a pill that stops certain types of dreams from coming back. Taking pills for something that might not work could be pretty dangerous. The people in the society probally think that the pills work so the dreams actually go away. It's the power of suggestion. For a young boy dreaming about washing one of is friends that is a girl is not really normal. And your telling me that everybody that takes pills dreams about something like that? That is very very strange.
Zach. P
i think jonas's dream was sick, he is having the dreams about wanting to wash a girl at age 12 is just sick. are the stirrings puberty? if it is jonas is hitting puberty early, or do all the kids hit puberty at an early age? why does jonas not feel insecure telling these people who arent even his parents that he is having dreams about bathing a girl?
Personally I think that this chapter was disturbingly funny. Jonas has a gross dream and he shared it with his family. I wish Lois Lowry would've described their facial expressions. I think that Jonas has a huge crush on Fiona; either that or it was just hormones.
~Megan M.
Gillette G.
Chapter 5 was....weird. He dreamed that he tried bathed Fiona. When he told his parents in the morning, his Mother gave him some sort of pill. She said it's to stop the "stirrings." His mother said that they stop taking the pills when they get older. I wonder why they stop taking the pills at the house of old. Overall, very weird chapter....
I agree with Ashley S.I think that "Stirrings" are just a phase that has to do with puberty. Although, i don't know what the pills are for, but i have an idea...more next time I blog.
-B. Carroll
In chapter five, Jonas officially reached puberty when he had his first Stirring. A Stirring is a dream that both boys and girls have. In a Stirring, the person will feel want or sexual affection for another person. This is like a fantasy dream, and the Community must make sure that they can control the emotions and hormones of the members. I think that this is a bit cruel, to prohibit people from feeling
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